Subject: Re: AAA IS NOT NOW a planetary network...
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 22:53:29 +0100
From: Jason Skeet <jason@deepdisc.com>

Monsieur Chardronnet,
>
>
>> (may be you should create the NASAE : New-Age and
>> Stalinian Astronauts of
>> England... With a propaganda self-historification
>> project, having sex with a
>> stalinian five years plan... with the slogan
>> "independant space exploration
>> in only one country"...like...Socialism in only one
>> country..., plying
>> two-sides football with stupid foreigners, give
>> conference in Kremlin,
>> etc...)
>
>Hmmmmmm, delicious!!!!! Things are getting saucy up
>here...;-)
>
>Gerard Z, free- lance occultiust and founder of the
>AAA
>

since the start of my own involvement with the AAA, it was always clear to
me that the idea of a Five Year Plan was creating an in-built 'time-frame'
to the project. Now if you want to contradict that then fine...the bottom
line is that NO-ONE has ever stated that ANY SINGLE AUTONOMOUS ASTRONAUT
cannot continue with the AAA if it makes sense to them in their own time
and space (ie. astronauts in New Zealand, the so-called 333 extension,
Foundation for Art in Zero Gravity, autonomous cells throughout Europe and
the US, even groups we know nothing about etc.)...so I find it sad and
actually a little disappointing that these suggestions of a kind of UK
centralisation are now being made...

come on, the ball is firmly in your court now to try and contradict me (the
tense will stay the same on the International Space Station website, and
WILL NOT change - as far as I am concerned (and this is not an imposition
on anyone since we are speaking of SELF-historification) the AAA WAS a
planetary network of people DEDICATED TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THEIR OWN
INDEPENDANT SPACE PROGRAMMES...as I have said to you in a previous post,
for ME the focus has shifted, and from my perspective the action will keep
moving...

but like I say, go to Brussels and tell everyone that I talk shit, indeed I
would like you to do that but please try and do it in a more elagant and
interesting way than simply making rather superficial references to state
socialism/fascism (because as an attack against the Five Year Plan - or
indeed of anything that I have ever said - it doesn't really say very much
- obviously the Five Year Plan was already playfully resonating as a
critique of cold war rocket state politics ANYWAY, so to make this comment
is not saying anything at all)...or is your comment really trying to
suggest that I am attempting to dictate something to you (or that I am even
trying to make you invisible)?...

so fight it, but just try using some better moves...

although actually this does point to some interesting observations that I
could make about the social relations that exist(ed) within a decentralised
network like the AAA...for example, it did always disappoint me (and
others) that even though it was always stated (in various contexts) that
the annual reports that were published in London were and could only ever
be one possible annual report, no other astronaut actually took this up,
indeed the idea was even made by some that the London published annual
report was the 'essential' AAA publication - therefore there was a certain
need to be visible in it (so much for building your own spaceships)...

also, why all this criticism of my personal view of the Five Year Plan,
when surely in a decentralised network that celebrates and embraces
contradiction it is really very easy to simply reveal my perspective as
being one amongst many possible perspectives, so why even bother getting so
wound up by it (perhaps there is always more ego-based politics in a
decentralised network than people care to admit to...)

and why is there a need to care so much about the content of the
myth(s)...the Five Year Plan, the (I still think rather boring) concept of
Gerard Z as 'founder', the AAA as a literary device...the AAA is about
ideas...so who really cares about rather tedious facts like if and when the
AAA happened to 'exist'...it should be clear to anyone remotely involved in
the AAA that the AAA was not about following gurus:- it was about engaging
with ideas and those ideas are still there to be engaged with. People may
choose to engage with them in 'new' ways or may still wish to use the AAA
collective phantom...as long as people are doing interesting and exciting
things with the AAA then let them get on with it...and as I detailed above
with those projects that are still using the AAA then as far as I can tell
there are still a number of good things happening...

from the start of the AAA there was a declared aim (from various autonomous
astronauts) to have an end-game...this is a very important tactic to use
(especially when you play the media invasion game, but for other reasons as
well - we don't want our identities to get too fixed now do we boys?)...

I think that I may come to realise that the best thing the AAA ever did was
to dissolve itself.

PLEASE FORWARD THIS MAIL TO ALL INTERESTED SCHISMS

Subject: Re: AAA IS NOT NOW a planetary network...
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 00:50:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: gerard z <gerard333z@yahoo.com>

Mr Skeet,

first of all, since you have proceeded to this global
AAA mailing and I tell you straight I don't think it
was really the case, I'd like to make it clear to the
other astronauts in the cc: that the following has not
been written by myself, Gerard Z, but by somebody else
whose message I've replyed writing as you can see
below in the text with only one > : " Hmmmm,
delicious! Things are getting saucy up here...;-)
Gerard Z, free-lance ocultist and fuonder of the AAA"
That's the only part of the message I've written, no
typical Internet misunderstanding please, this is
quite an important highlight for me, even though quite
boring ( but as you write in your reply I'M BORING ;-)
You fucking bastard, I love you Skeet ;-)
Said this, I don't want to speak for somebody else but
I don't think that the following message was anything
to be taken in a serious way ( and so my little stupid
reply to it!!!!) Come on remember the good old times
of all that slagging off on the AAA mailing list,
don't you miss them? I do. No need for serious reply
like that, if I have to tell the truth I think that's
was out of context especially because you made what
was a maybe not particularly intelligent joke ( I'm
talking about myself of course!) between 3 friends (
me, you and this mysterious somebody else) a matter of
collective attention and because of this I can't do
anything but reply to all, AND BORE THEM, to explain
my point of view of the fact.

I hope no worries of any sort and from anyone :-)

Be well you former astronaut,
Gerard Z, free-lance occultist and BORINGLY founder of
of the AAA

Subject: Re: AAA IS NOT NOW a planetary network...
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 09:13:28 GMT
From: "ewen chardronnet" <ewenahahah@hotmail.com>

"Because it seems to be necessary to precise it, the Association of
Autonomous Astronauts is a transversalist concept that meams its total
opposition to all existing space programs. In this sens, AAA Rosko don't
want to be part in any kind of 5 years plan, and others stalinisation of
what is AUTONOMIA."

excerpts from The Cosmos destroyed by the Jackals' Councils, Gravit zro 8,
Bologna 98

In Bologna 98, I changed my talk (I was the only french allowed to talk) at
the last moment (and integrate this) to see how people will react... Nobody
gave a shit to this...
They were just a debate about hippy and micro-fascism (quiet interesting)
with the Men In Red...

I'm just running a self-historification project... The point is that the
more we wrote (french groups) texts in 97, 98, (in 99 we were disgusted...)
to criticize the 5 years plan concept as autonomous astronauts (and we were
friendly and patient, except AAAA Cosmos of course), the 3a's leader and the
"press officer" never gave a shit to those texts, and may be never tried to
translate or reed them. The 5yearsplan become more and more important in the
english propaganda's texts last years. You cannot reed an english aaa
propaganda text without this reference to the 5YP. Until now. Repeting
themselves again and again. We just wanted to open in 98 a sain debate on
it. That's why may be the situation is like that today. The fact that you
are the only guy who want to disolve the aaa (may be with your "press
officer" too) exactly at the end of the 5 years plan confirms that it is
really a dictatorial and narcissic concept.
I think the 5 years plan concept is much more boring that Gerard Z.

I'm still friendly (I'm not a "misterious" or "boring" guy, I - as gerard Z
says too - love you Jason) and just want to run my so-called
"self-historification" project and give all the elements to the aaaers
around the world that english aaers never forwarded.

LONG LIVE INDEPENDANT SPACE PROGRAMMES !

see you in space my friend
Ewen

Subject: Re: AAA IS NOT NOW a planetary network...
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 15:48:06 GMT
From: "Henri Beauchamp" <hfbj_parasol@hotmail.com>

It's great that Ewen attached a number of French and other critical (of the
5 yr plan) texts in his email, but a shame that they come after the plan est
fini. (And I mean the plan NOT the AAA).

I tried for a number of years, without success, to get hold of French AAA
material (Gravite Zero, TNT, etc). My partner at the time would have been
willing to translate it to english and I would have distributed copies.

Schism through network breakdown leading to communication block and then to
information starvation...

Subject: RE: AAA IS NOT NOW a planetary network...
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 14:02:13 +0200
From: Konrad Becker <konrad@t0.or.at>

there might be a dynamic trialectical solution to this problem -

---_MAYBE_

/ \

_WAS_ _ _ IS_

which you can read then as the AAA: "was", "is" AND "maybe is/was"
excuse me if this sounds too academic, harmonizing and boring- but would
that be satisfactory to all parties?
greetings from BXL
~>K

Subject: NASAE is the occult group that controlled the AAA (I'm joking)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 13:59:14 GMT
From: "ewen chardronnet" <ewenahahah@hotmail.com>

Here is the letter i sent to Jason the 04/07/00.

Jason,

> >I saw your AAISS. It looks good ans seems to be a good project.
> >
> >But, I have one major problem : "AAA WAS a planetary network..."
> >I think AAA is still a planetary network and the AAISS will developp the
> >AAA's ideas further. Some of us are in the 333 extension... New groups
> >created themselves only for the 333 extension (Jungle AAA, Guyana AAA,
>AAA
> >XKV8, etc...). The Guyana Project will be the end of the 333 extension
>(and
> >end of the AAA) for AAA Rosko, AAA Guyana, AAA Paris Nord, AAA Penhars,
>AAA
> >XKV8, etc...
>
>unfortunately you are not able to pick up the flyer that is in the dome
>tent where the ISS installed...there it says that in April 2000 autonomous
>astronauts began debating a proposal that the AAA should dissolve
>itself...

OK for that. Exactly what we are talking about.
(AAA Rosko project is to disolve itself at the end of the 333 days and
launch GUYANA FREE SPACE BASE, with a AAA book, a AAA docu, the Guyana movie
in september 2001...)

the dome tent, the ISS website and the material hanging from the
>inside of the dome tent are explained as "self-historification
>materials'...therefore from this perspective I am using the past
>tense....

What is the dome tent ? something in Bruxelles ?...

it WAS a planetary network of people dedicated to building their
>own spacships...of course the network still exists, but I think the focus
>of this network will be shifting...

To say "WAS" implies that it doesn't exist anymore. A kind of hold-up of
the existing groups...
We are still doing things in the name of the AAA.

IT IS STILL A NETWORK OF PEOPLE DEDICATE TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THEIR OWN
INDEPENDANT SPACE PROGRAMMES

not "dedicated to building their own spaceships" (I'm not building mine for
the moment, I will help to build Gerard Z'one), have a look at
seeyouinspace.org.

(may be you should create the NASAE : New-Age and Stalinian Astronauts of
England... With a propaganda self-historification project, having sex with a
stalinian five years plan... with the slogan "independant space exploration
in only one country"...like...Socialism in only one country..., plying
two-sides football with stupid foreigners, give conference in Kremlin,
etc...)

I'm joking.

So may be this (to make everybody understand... like new groups, etc...) :

"The Association of Autonomous Astronauts (AAA) succeeded in establishing a
world-wide network of people dedicated to developing their own independent
space exploration programs. Now, this network exists and the focus will be
shifting.
Autonomous astronauts successfully fought against...
These plans for an AAISS..."

so I am still wanting to be involved
>with the projects you are mentioning, but only in the capacity of a 'former
>autonomous astronaut'...

you're welcome in guyana project...

for me, and for MY situation here in London, the
>AAA can go no further...I don't want to repeat myself, it gets boring...ALL
>THE ACTION IS IN STUFF THAT MOVES

the game was played in 97... We saw it in Bologna 98...

>
>bye, from a former autonomous astronaut

always autonmous astronaut, never more in a 5 years plan...

Ewen

Subject: Re: AAA IS NOT NOW a poached haddock...

Yes hello

Forgive me for not cluttering up your in-boxes sooner, but I have been in
Belfast, dodging paramilitary fuckheads and (unfortunately) trying to work.

I assume I am the disgraced "press officer" that Ewen is referring to. So
perhaps I will wade in and attempt to clarify the situation.

I took over the role of AAA Press Officer after Herr Skeet. The idea was to
have it as a position that changed person every year. After I had done my year
(ending with my report in the 2nd Annual Report) nobody else offered to take it
up. I raised this in an internal report I compiled, which was sent to all the
groups that were active at the time. Retrospectively it was a role that wasn't
really needed as a centralised position after the network had established
itself. After then I and many others simply described ourselves as the press
officers of their own groups.

Whilst it is true that I didn't invest much time in Ewen's talk at the Bologna
conference, that was because I was told (I forget by who) that it was a version
of another text which I had already read. As Ewen was talking very fast, in
French, it would have been very difficult for me, with my very poor
comprehension of French, to figure out that he had changed the text.

Whatever. I am surprised that the French groups were "disgusted" in 1999. They
certainly kept that quiet, eh? I'm quite keen on receiving critiques of what
I'm doing. This is one of the reasons that the exchange with the Men In Red was
interesting, and I am indebted to Andreas MuB for helping with the
translations.

I do try to read all of the texts I receive, regardless of language. I recently
flicked through a text about Negri and Luther Blissett that our Danish AAA
comrades sent me. For all I know it has a fantastically interesting critique of
my praxis in, but I certainly didn't see it. This is possibly the reason behind
my seeming avoidance of other texts, rather than some kind of Stalinistic
whitewashing. If the texts had been flagged up as being critiques I might well
have found someone who could translate them. Otherwise I was just glad to see
the French comrades adding their energies to the AAA collective phantom. I
picked out phrases here and there and we got some friends to translate some of
the elliptical action texts for the annual reports. I thought those texts were
very strong - moving in a very different direction to a lot of the more
'literal' AAA stuff.

If someone who receives this could translate the French texts that Ewen
enclosed, I would be very grateful.

As for repetition - I think that has been one of the best aspects of the AAA. I
think that has been one of the best aspects of the AAA. I think that has been
one of the best aspects of the AAA. Repetition is groovy, no? Get a good idea
and then do it to death. How long does death take? Oh, about 5 years or until
you get bored with it all. Repetition is a great tactic for media invasions -
you just reel off what you want to say and then mutate it to order. Originality
is over-rated. No worries. I think repetition has been one of the best aspects
of the AAA (or did I say that already?).

For me, the AAA ended on 23rd April 2000. But I am still glad that some groups
are carrying on with it. Good for them if they still find it satisfying. I will
continue to report on what they are up to as well (no Stalinist sectarianism
here!) - so there is an AAA Aotearoa report in this month's news at the
uncarved site. Next month will mention Ewen's site (good site Ewen!) and the
Guyana project - and whatever else is going on.... Plus I don't think I've
exhausted the exploration of dub and space exploration, so that may bear fruit
in some form.

But I must say that one of the main reasons I got involved with the AAA was
because there was a clearly agreed time frame. (Contrast this with the
atrociously retrospectively IMPOSED time frame of projects like T.O.P.Y. if you
want to know about REAL crypto-hierarchies).

It perhaps goes without saying that there are a number of groups who have
stopped doing stuff since April 23rd this year. Perhaps they've been
manipulated by The Leader and his strangely deformed, yet still intensely evil,
"Press Officer" or perhaps they've just acted autonomously, in accordance with
their desires. Either way, they can't win, eh?

But would you really have it any other way? Aren't we supposed to be having
schisms RIGHT NOW? Wasn't that the idea ALL ALONG? Or are we supposed to agree
about everything? "Moving In One Direction - Only!" All hail the next Thousand
Year Reich of the AAA! Or the next 333 days (and what then?) Or until you've
had enough and it's got boring? Or _just before_ then (ah, but when is that,
exactly?). Or another 5 year plan? With what intent?

Whilst I appreciate Konrad's lucidity and 3-sided thinking - I don't think this
is about finding solutions that are agreeable to all parties. QUITE THE
REVERSE. I would much prefer to see a situation where each person that has been
involved with the AAA network was thoroughly disgusted with at least one other
person/group/country/project. Because then we have an idea about what we want
to do next - what should be different. OTHERWISE WE MIGHT AS WELL GO AND START
A RELIGION OR SOMETHING.

Raido AAA's final internal report to all other groups will read "Come and have
a go if you think you're hard enough!"

Are you up for the challenge? (Are you up for the downstroke?) Or am I going to
have to form my own AAA group for the express purpose of slagging off Raido AAA
_and_ all the rest of you? Or WHAT?

John Eden

PS: I certainly don't think anyone getting this message is boring. Except
perhaps........ ;-)
<fade out to evil cackle, sulphur and brimstone, sinister church organ>.

Ewen, your use of the charges of hierarchy and clique-ism as a means of
creating splits in the "movement" could be pepped up a bit, though they do
conform effectively with an archetype (John can fill you in with the details
on that one). The story probably won't have legs -- the AAA were too
obviously a disorganised rabble for there to be a hierarchy and this was the
basis of much criticism at the time. I think you're going to have to be a
bit more combative -- I mean everyone expects movements to become
hierarchical. You need more ideological critique and ideally a total
onslaught on everything the "English" "AAA" (what a quaint concept!) stood
"for", while proposing an alternative ideology which differs in only the
most minute degree.

However one aspect of the power structure / conspiracy charge does ring
true. As we have previously discussed, you have been programmed since 1994
by an English cabal composed of John Michell, John Eden himself, and Nicholas
Saunders to be the seed of dissent which will germinate in a fractal
kaleidoscope of new historifications. As Jon points out, every movement
needs its split, just as every Jesus needs his Judas, and as all
Rosicrucians know, Judas and Jesus were brothers.

Your every action is therefore validated only by the imprimatur of approval
of the Sacred Heart of St AAA.

Your brother in faith,

Paul Meme

Subject: our goals remains the abundance of the unexpected !
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:47:16 GMT
From: "ewen chardronnet" <ewenahahah@hotmail.com>

Astronauts,

World-Information Event is Great ! You should go there !

Here is the text presenting the AAA in the dome tent :

----------------------------------------------------------------
SEE YOU IN SPACE
The Association of Autonomous Astronauts (AAA) was a planetary network of
people dedicated to the development of their own independent space
exploration programmes.

Launched in April 1995, the AAA fought against government, corporate and
military monopoly of space travel. With the climax to the AAA's successful
Five Year Plan for building a world-wide network of local, community-based
groups, autonomous astronauts have been debating a proposal that the AAA
should now dissolve itself.
A new phase of AAA self-historification has also been initiated, in wich
autonomous astronauts can organize for themselves AAA documentation and
consider the complex achievments of the AAA. Contradictory and divergent
assessments emerge that will prevent a fixed and static history of the AAA.

AAA self-historification materials included at world-information.org :
>AAA portable dome tent for installation in any location
>various AAA propaganda documents hung from the inside of AAA dome tent
>AAA rave in space dance music
>AAA International Space Station website hosted by
http://www.seeyouinspace.org
------------------------------------------------------------------

I don't send you the french version... It's too bad translated (I'm sure
that the guy who did it was not french - and not Belgium). And the AAA
french general presentation behind the dome tent is much more caricatural...
like "rave in space in a three sided football field, having sex with a 5
Years Plan", etc...

When I asked Jason half of june "What is the ISS ?" he answered "I don't
know what you are talking about"... and the "What is the dome tent ?", no
replied... Lack of informations... Dissolution IMPOSED...I just saw by
myself the hold-up of the existing groups...

Fight the english monopoly on the Association of Autonomous Astronauts !

>Yes hello
>
>Forgive me for not cluttering up your in-boxes sooner, but I have been in
>Belfast, dodging paramilitary fuckheads and (unfortunately) trying to work.
>
>I assume I am the disgraced "press officer" that Ewen is referring to. So
>perhaps I will wade in and attempt to clarify the situation.
>
>I took over the role of AAA Press Officer after Herr Skeet. The idea was to
>have it as a position that changed person every year. After I had done
>my year
>(ending with my report in the 2nd Annual Report) nobody else offered to
>take it
>up. I raised this in an internal report I compiled, which was sent to
>all the
>groups that were active at the time. Retrospectively it was a role that
>wasn't
>really needed as a centralised postion after the network had established
>itself. After then I and many others simply described ourselves as the
>press
>officers of their own groups.

the second english Annual report'texts were good.
To describe yourself as a "press officer" showed at this period how the AAA
slipped in a hierarchical form.
I created my own group the 31/12/95 after a talk with A.N.T.I. and Christoph
Fringeli in a harcore rave night in Paris...
In 96 and until april 97 the AAA french groups were inspired in a sort of
"radical" position regarding the fight against the governement monopoly on
space exploration... Like AAA Pantin text (terrorist lift off equation),
lots of Gravite Zero'bulletin, november 96' Kourou riots reports, AAA
Penarster sabotage point of view, Roaches in space, etc...
But in april 97, we realised that the 5YP was not a joke... It seemed to
appear in the second annual report that the english founders groups' 5YP was
planned to go to its end... And what about the groups created after the 23
of april... Was it an hidden strategy of the "first AAA groups" to celebrate
the cult of the "founders", the cult of the "leader" (and now the cult of
the leader'son - next generation supposed leader) ? No way for others
strategies (the 5YP is only representative of may be 5 or 6 groups, and I
heard about at least 60 groups)...
That's the meaning I think of the critics forwarded in the AntiAAA-Cosmos
text 'nightmare is upon us' by Michel Comte.
Various french AAA groups stopped to do things at this date (Pantin, Nissa,
Shelta, Penarster, and a larg part of the big AAA Paris Nord group).
(AAA Rosko was launched on the 31/12/96, so its 5YP should finished the
31/12/00... that is a more significant day...But AAA Rosko dissolved itself
in the 6 to 7 of july' night in Bruxelles 2000 center. So, we well succeeded
our 4 Years and a Half Plan. You'll read soon "AAA Rosko last appearance
report".)

I'd like to say too that Media Invasion never went well in France. We tried,
but you know, in France we already had the Situationnist International and
Debord and various post-situs groups (still now). So, when medias heard
about the AAA, they said that we are "new age situationnist", and of course
we said no (and recently again with a book publisher for the AAA french
book...). But when they saw several references to "psychogeography", and
various plagiarism of the Eduardo Rothe's text in IS 12, (especially in the
first english annual report) they didn't give a shit of the AAA... Another
pro-situ group... In France : "you are a situationnist, you criticize the
'socit du spectacle' so you are not welcome in the medias"... And
especially because lots of french actors or cultural journalists always
claim themselves as "debordists"...

I just recently succeeded to have a quote about AAA in World-Information.org
on the "Monde Diplomatique" web site, that is one of the best reference...
(http://www.monde-diplomatique.fr/agenda)

>
>Whilst it is true that I didn't invest much time in Ewen's talk at the
>Bologna
>conference, that was because I was told (I forget by who) that it was a
>version
>of another text which I had already read. As Ewen was talking very fast, in
>French, it would have been very difficult for me, with my very poor
>comprehension of French, to figure out that he had changed the text.
>
>Whatever. I am surprised that the French groups were "disgusted" in
>1999. They
>certainly kept that quiet, eh?

In Bologna 98, nobody gave a shit to our 5YP critics... I didn't want to
repeat myself in 99...

We were also "disgusted" in 99 (may be "I", because others groups just
wanted to forget the AAA and kill the 4th and 5th years of the english 5YP)
because nobody else in the AAA fought the english monopoly on the
Association of Autonomous Astronauts. Anyway, we had good time in France
talking about independant space programs, making another GZ bulletin,
developing the AntiAAA-Cosmos website (Franois did a large part), trying to
prepare the Guyana Project, and of course preparing the 'Rave In Space' cd
with Jason, Andrea and Riccardo. (I love you guys).

I'm quite keen on receiving critiques of what
>I'm doing. This is one of the reasons that the exchange with the Men In
>Red was
>interesting, and I am indebted to Andreas MuB for helping with the
>translations.
>
>I do try to read all of the texts I receive, regardless of language. I
>recently
>flicked through a text about Negri and Luther Blissett that our Danish AAA
>comrades sent me. For all I know it has a fantastically interesting
>critique of
>my praxis in, but I certainly didn't see it. This is possibly the reason
>behind
>my seeming avoidance of other texts, rather than some kind of Stalinistic
>whitewashing. If the texts had been flagged up as being critiques I
>might well
>have found someone who could translate them. Otherwise I was just glad
>to see
>the French comrades adding their energies to the AAA collective phantom. I
>picked out phrases here and there and we got some friends to translate
>some of
>the elliptical action texts for the annual reports. I thought those
>texts were
>very strong - moving in a very different direction to a lot of the more
>'literal' AAA stuff.
>
>If someone who receives this could translate the French texts that Ewen
>enclosed, I would be very grateful.

You should translate GZ 8 and GZ 9 and especially Bologna edito...

>
>As for repetition - I think that has been one of the best aspects of the
>AAA. I
>think that has been one of the best aspects of the AAA. I think that has
>been
>one of the best aspects of the AAA. Repetition is groovy, no? Get a good
>idea
>and then do it to death. How long does death take? Oh, about 5 years or
>until
>you get bored with it all. Repetition is a great tactic for media
>invasions -
>you just reel off what you want to say and then mutate it to order.
>Originality
>is over-rated. No worries. I think repetition has been one of the best
>aspects
>of the AAA (or did I say that already?).
>
>For me, the AAA ended on 23rd April 2000. But I am still glad that some
>groups
>are carrying on with it. Good for them if they still find it satisfying.

>I will
>continue to report on what they are up to as well (no Stalinist
>sectarianism
>here!) - so there is an AAA Aotearoa report in this month's news at the
>uncarved site. Next month will mention Ewen's site (good site Ewen!) and
>the
>Guyana project - and whatever else is going on.... Plus I don't think I've
>exhausted the exploration of dub and space exploration, so that may bear
>fruit
>in some form.
>
>But I must say that one of the main reasons I got involved with the AAA was
>because there was a clearly agreed time frame. (Contrast this with the
>atrocioulsy retrospectively IMPOSED time frame of projects like T.O.P.Y.
>if you
>want to know about REAL crypto-hierarchies).

I felt english '5YP as an IMPOSED time frame and as a crypto-hierarchy...

>It perhaps goes without saying that there are a number of groups who have
>stopped doing stuff since April 23rd this year. Perhaps they've been
>manipulated by The Leader and his strangely deformed, yet still
>intensely evil,
>"Press Officer" or perhaps they've just acted autonomously, in
>accordance with
>their desires. Either way, they can't win, eh?
>
>But would you really have it any other way? Aren't we supposed to be having
>schisms RIGHT NOW? Wasn't that the idea ALL ALONG? Or are we supposed to
>agree
>about everything? "Moving In One Direction - Only!" All hail the next
>Thousand
>Year Reich of the AAA! Or the next 333 days (and what then?) Or until
>you've
>had enough and it's got boring? Or _just before_ then (ah, but when is
>that,
>exactly?). Or another 5 year plan? With what intent?
>
>Whilst I appreciate Konrad's lucidity and 3-sided thinking - I don't
>think this
>is about finding solutions that are agreeable to all parties. QUITE THE
>REVERSE. I would much prefer to see a situation where each person that
>has been
>involved with the AAA network was thoroughly disgusted with at least one
>other
>person/group/country/project. Because then we have an idea about what we
>want
>to do next - what should be different. OTHERWISE WE MIGHT AS WELL GO AND
>START
>A RELIGION OR SOMETHING.

You're right.

>
>Raido AAA's final internal report to all other groups will read "Come
>and have
>a go if you think you're hard enough!"
>
>Are you up for the challenge? (Are you up for the downstroke?) Or am I
>going to
>have to form my own AAA group for the express purpose of slagging off
>Raido AAA
>_and_ all the rest of you? Or WHAT?
>
>John Eden
>
>PS: I certainly don't think anyone getting this message is boring. Except
>perhaps........ ;-)
><fade out to evil cackle, sulphur and brimstone, sinister church organ>.

Now I suggest (that's make lots of people happy in France now, waiting for
that since a long time) to forget all the heavy "separated groups" like AAA
Rosko, AAA Paris Nord, Raido AAA, Inner City AAA, Vienna AAA, etc... and
just talk about the "Autonomous Astronauts"... Lola Chanel from Vienna
succeeded to fly in zero-g in the Russian's city stars, and we have a free
space base in Guyana, seeyouinspace is on its way too... Kiwis astronauts
too... Let's go to space !

See you in guyana !
Ewen

PS : We are working on the AAA french book, but it will not be an
anti-5YPlan book... I don't think that will interest so much a large
public... But It will not be a 5YP book anymore..